Finding 1,000x Assets & Asymmetric Returns | Dan Morehead of Pantera Capital
How do you find an asset with 1000x asymmetric return? How do you find the next bitcoin? Our guest today is Dan Morehead, founder and managing director at Pantera Capital. He has been buying bitcoin since 2013 when the price was just $65. His fund is up over 100x since then. There’s a lot to learn from Dan’s story, about early bitcoin history, but also the pattern recognition required to identify asymmetric assets. We cover price predictions, 4 year cycles vs a supercycle, how much upside is still in crypto, the trump administration and his thoughts on a strategic bitcoin reserve ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🗣️TOKU | CRYPTO EMPLOYMENT https://bankless.cc/toku ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/base:0x4be6cd4d402fed49eb2de95fbc8e737e8ffd3e7f/1?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 6:00 The Email from 2013 14:15 Asymmetric Patterns 17:50 Buying Bitcoin in 2013 26:25 Onboarding Investors 32:12 Crypto's Global Adoption 37:15 Bitcoin's Escape Velocity 43:19 US Government Impact on Crypto 52:21 Global Bitcoin Race 56:14 Institutional Adoption for Crypto 1:04:37 Crypto Cycles 1:09:20 2025 Bull Market? 1:12:53 Macro Environment 1:16:50 Tokenization 1:21:18 Thoughts on AI 1:24:19 The Next Bitcoin 1:26:46 Future Plans 1:27:23 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Dan Morehead https://x.com/dan_pantera Pantera Capital https://panteracapital.com/ ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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1:19:48
ROLLUP: Markets Turn Bearish | Trillion Dollar Bank Launches L2 | Massive Pudgy Airdrop | DeFi Drama
Joining us this week is Anthony Sassano! We'll explore whether the current price downturn signals the end of the bull market or just a minor hiccup in the cycle, analyze the Fed’s latest rate cuts, and assess institutional adoption trends keeping crypto’s momentum alive. Big L2 developments are making waves: Kraken’s Ink chain hits mainnet early, Deutsche Bank ventures into zkEVMs, and ENS selects Linea for scaling its Namechain. Meanwhile, Pudgy Penguins launch the PENGU token, sparking controversy and volatility. Plus, fresh insights from the 2024 Crypto Developer Report and a closer look at the Aave vs. Polygon drama. Stick around for Anthony’s On-Chain Spotify Wrapped and tips on spotting market tops! ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🗣️TOKU | CRYPTO EMPLOYMENT https://bankless.cc/toku ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 00:00:00 Start https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-meeting-live-updates-traders-await-december-interest-rate-cut.html https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1869627735267840135 00:02:45 Market https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-meeting-live-updates-traders-await-december-interest-rate-cut.html https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1869627735267840135 00:09:10 Where Are We In This Cycle https://www.grayscale.com/research/reports/the-state-of-the-crypto-cycle 00:12:04 ETF Flows https://farside.co.uk/?p=1518 https://farside.co.uk/btc 00:16:09 Mover Of The Week… Fartcoin? https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/fartcoin https://www.infinitebackrooms.com/dreams/conversation-1721540624-scenario-terminal-of-truths-txt 00:26:48 Developers, Developers, Developers https://www.developerreport.com/developer-report https://x.com/MariaShen/status/1867295574242078980 https://x.com/MariaShen/status/1851702783319126277 https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1867324885732671778 00:34:54 Kraken Ink Chain Live https://x.com/inkonchain/status/1869417386761470219 http://inkonchain.com/dashboard 00:38:34 Deutsche Bank Announces zk L2 https://thedefiant.io/news/tradfi-and-fintech/deutsche-bank-s-1-5-trillion-project-dama-2-develops-ethereum-l2-zksync-38f6221f 00:41:32 Caroline Crenshaw Vote https://x.com/BrendanPedersen/status/1869055922238279940 https://x.com/standwithcrypto/status/1869151080300548383 https://www.citizen.org/article/support-comm-crenshaw/ https://financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=409421 https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/1867301980890165398 00:47:14 Aave vs Polygon https://governance.aave.com/t/arfc-adjust-risk-parameters-for-aave-v2-and-v3-on-polygon/20211 https://x.com/DefiIgnas/status/1868612366822461817 https://x.com/sandeepnailwal/status/1869153510756909475 https://x.com/stanikulechov/status/1869182600008679563 00:54:06 Pudgy Penguins Launched Their PENGU Token https://x.com/LucaNetz/status/1869005071624904959 https://x.com/suji_yan/status/1868682237488894422 https://claim.pudgypenguins.com/ https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/pudgy-penguins-pengu https://nftpricefloor.com/ 00:58:15 Ethena Launched Its New Stablecoin https://x.com/ethena_labs/status/1868657723799470361 https://x.com/ZeMariaMacedo/status/1868673718911713602 01:00:35 Bankless Wrapped Just Launched! https://bankless.com/wrapped 01:04:37 How to Recognize Bull Market Tops? https://imgur.com/a/Vaw3TSW 01:10:42 Check Out The Daily Gwei Shoutout to The Daily Gwei for Ethereum-focused insights and updates. https://www.youtube.com/@TheDailyGwei ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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1:11:45
AI ROLLUP #4: Agents Order Pizza | Eliza x Stanford | Virtuals $35M Fees | Zerebro Staking ETH
Ejaaz returns to break down the latest surge in AI Agent innovation alongside Ryan this week, covering the rapid evolution at the intersection of crypto and AI. They explore how AI agents are making onchain payments to each other, autonomously ordering real-world goods, and even running their own Ethereum validators. They also dive into the new frameworks and partnerships—like ai16z’s collaboration with Stanford and Virtuals’ explosive growth—propelling these agents into cultural, economic, and infrastructural prominence. Will autonomous AI agents fundamentally reshape crypto market dynamics, creating new paradigms for value and coordination that spark unprecedented growth? Follow Ejaaz on Twitter: https://x.com/cryptopunk7213 ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🗣️TOKU | CRYPTO EMPLOYMENT https://bankless.cc/toku ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/116?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 2:04 AI Agent Bull Case https://x.com/ai16zdao/status/1868105247056683129 5:46 Chris Dixon’s Read, Write, Own (Automate?) 9:20 AI Ordering Pizza https://x.com/ropirito/status/1867013533243769100 12:23 AI Ordering Toilet Paper https://x.com/AgentTankLive/status/1868704493157884289 16:16 Agent to Agent Commerce https://x.com/ethermage/status/1868687530742460750 23:05 Bankless $500 Agent Tip https://x.com/simulacrumai/status/1867230651075768533 26:13 Virtuals Growth https://imgur.com/a/2Y79V3P https://x.com/ethermage/status/1867616462019678708 https://x.com/virtuals_io/status/1868648756591391115 https://x.com/s4mmyeth/status/1868397655497613561 35:49 AI16z’s Eliza Labs Stanford Partnership & v2 Details https://x.com/shawmakesmagic/status/1867721347406999917 https://x.com/ai16zdao/status/1868689379344195680 45:35 Arc https://x.com/dv_memetics/status/1866670277440020570 https://x.com/0thtachi/status/1867337171595911473 https://x.com/arcdotfun/status/1867206440206696520 https://x.com/shawmakesmagic/status/1867799462787293244 https://x.com/0xcygaar/status/1868072783089127516 49:40 Zerebro Runs an Ethereum Validator https://x.com/tintsion/status/1867293794112344080 https://open.spotify.com/track/6G3XpKtoIoS7WpiuzeMBau?si=cd62150670cc4dfb 57:17 Top Emerging Trends https://x.com/ropirito/status/1867282256672567517 https://x.com/aimonicabrands/status/1867281243265806732 https://x.com/Defi0xJeff/status/1867976166201774265 1:07:15 Lightning Round of Cool Shit This Week https://x.com/cookiedotfun/status/1867268954831695909 https://x.com/getmasafi/status/1867379305334153702 1:11:17 Homework to Learn More About AI Agents https://www.bankless.com/ai-agents https://x.com/yb_effect https://x.com/S4mmyEth https://www.amazon.com/Accelerando-Singularity-Charles-Stross/dp/0441014151 1:14:22 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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1:15:19
Why Bubbles are Good | Byrne Hobart
How can economic bubbles be good for the world? Byrne Hobart is a financial analyst known for his newsletter "The Diff" which covers tech, trends and economics. Byrne has been on the periphery of crypto for longer that this podcast has existed In this podcast we discuss the book he has co-authored, Boom: Bubbles and the End of Stagnation, where he makes the case for why human progress has stagnated and why speculative bubbles might be the only way out. ------ 📣 DYDX | UNLIMITED ERA https://bankless.cc/dydx-unlimited ------ 🎬 DEBRIEF | Ryan & David Unpacking the Episode: https://www.bankless.com/podcast/debrief-the-byrne-hobarts-interview ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty ⚖️ ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🗣️TOKU | CRYPTO EMPLOYMENT https://bankless.cc/toku ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/115?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 7:29 Byrne’s Crypto Background 10:13 Bitcoin Inception 28:17 Blockspace Economics 34:20 BOOM Thesis 45:35 The Great Stagnation 1:16:46 Civilizational Risk 1:32:31 Good Bubbles vs Bad Bubbles 1:40:04 Identifying the Next Bubble 1:47:53 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Byrne Hobart https://x.com/ByrneHobart Boom: Bubbles and the End of Stagnation https://a.co/d/f7m2OG8 The Diff Newsletter https://www.thediff.co/ ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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1:38:06
Investing in AI, Crypto, & Tech in 2025 | Elad Gil
What are the best investing opportunities in Tech for 2025? Elad Gil is one of silicon valley's legendary investors. He's backed 40 unicorns including Airbnb, Coinbase, Figma and Stripe to name a few. He's super active in AI and hosts the no priors podcast which is like Bankless but for AI. In this conversation, Elad explores the state of AI and how the industry is evolving, what he thinks about Crypto. and why he’s bullish on Tech in general given the new United States political administration. ------ 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2 🦄UNISWAP | BUG BOUNTY PROGRAM https://bankless.cc/Uniswap-Bug-Bounty 🐧 CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiSimple 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 📈 iYield: YOUR FINANCIAL PICTURE, SIMPLIFIED https://bankless.cc/iYield 🔒 SAFE | INTRODUCING SAFENET https://bankless.cc/SAFE ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/114?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 6:02 AI in 2024 8:21 The Future of AI 12:35 Where are we on the S Curve? 17:38 AI vs Other Tech Revolutions 20:23 Are we in a Bubble? 23:59 Evolution of AI 29:06 AI x Crypto 34:12 Centralized vs Decentralized AI 37:46 AI Agents 42:32 Doomsday Scenario 47:16 Raw Crypto 52:28 Order of Trends 55:06 Silicon Valley on Crypto 58:14 Crypto Founders vs Tech Founders 1:01:27 Politics & Tech 1:14:36 Advice for 2025 1:17:13 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Elad Gil https://x.com/eladgil Elad Gil Website https://eladgil.com/ No Priors Podcast https://www.youtube.com/@NoPriorsPodcast Prime Open sources their 10B parameter training run https://x.com/PrimeIntellect/status/1862607165669900407 ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures