#302 Holly Bond: From Mom on a Mission to Franchise Founder
Holly Bond didn’t inherit a business or a playbook—she built her own, from the basement up. In this first of a two-part conversation, she shares how a late return to university, a family health wake-up call, and pure Gen X tenacity drove her to create a kids’ fitness franchise with national impact. Holly’s story is part entrepreneurship, part emotional reckoning, and full of hard-earned wisdom for anyone designing change from the inside out. If you’ve ever thought it was too late, too messy, or too uncertain—this episode proves otherwise.>>Seventeen Years and One Framed Diploma“My kids framed my degree—with notes saying ‘You’re the bomb.’”Holly recounts how she returned to college as a mom of two, taking one course at a time over nearly two decades—proving that starting late doesn’t mean finishing small.>>Sales from Scratch“I went from mall dumpsters to headhunter interviews.”Her first outside sales job was in waste management. The job was unglamorous—but it proved she could sell. And it led her, unexpectedly, to the world of recruiting.>>The Moment That Changed Everything“He said our son was overweight. I didn’t believe it—until I saw it.”A brutally honest conversation about her son’s health launched Holly into action. What began as a home gym turned into Bulldog Interactive Fitness, a children’s fitness franchise powered by gaming.>>From Basement Prototypes to National News“I said we’re franchising on TV—before we even had an application form.”She hustled media coverage, fielded 100+ franchise inquiries in 24 hours, and built the brand on the fly. It was messy. It was bold. And it worked—until the 2009 crash tested everything.>>The Lessons That Nearly Broke Her“I stopped listening to the advisors who warned me. Almost lost it all.”From overconfidence to near-collapse, Holly reflects on how she came close to losing her company—and what pulled her back just in time._________________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Holly Bond
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#301 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part Two
In Part Two, Sande takes us into the quieter—but more honest—chapter that followed. He shares what happened when he stepped off the growth treadmill, redefined ambition, and began unlearning the beliefs that kept him over-performing and under-listening. From rebuilding marriage to carving out what he calls Life Peels, Sande shares what it means to grow by subtracting—not stacking.Key Highlights of Our Interview:Life After the Climb“What would happen if I just got really quiet and listened? Not learned—listened.”The Life Peels Method“We’re like Michelangelo’s David. You don’t need to add anything—you just need to carve away what’s not you.”Redefining Growth “I’m done with strategy decks and trying to prove something. I just want clarity, ease, and to feel good in my skin.”Marriage in the In-Between“When our last kid left for college, we both needed space. Not because it was broken—but because we hadn’t had it before.”How Less Became More“When I let go of trying to control everything, the right things started happening. On their own.”_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
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#300 Sande Golgart: What If You’re Winning the Wrong Game? — Part One
Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat still—until one day, the success story stopped feeling like his. In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: “You climb, climb, climb… then realize the mountain isn’t even yours.”Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls“I was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.”The High Performer Trap“I just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.”Action Over Inaction“Even if you take a wrong step, at least you’re moving. Inaction is a choice too—but it gives you nothing to work with.”The Wake-Up Line“You climb, climb, climb… then realized the mountain isn’t even yours.”No Off Switch“I didn’t even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.”_____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
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#299 Chris Quek: Building the Next Gen, Starting With His Own
Chris Quek isn’t just building startups—he’s building a generation. In this second half of his story, he shares how selling his inheritance became the launchpad for Thrive, a VC firm that invests in Southeast Asia’s overlooked next-gen entrepreneurs. From structuring value-aligned startups to teaching his kids the principles behind technology, Chris shows how legacy isn’t something you receive—it’s something you design. For Gen Xers navigating intergenerational tension, personal ambition, and regional impact, this episode delivers both hard-won wisdom and a hopeful blueprint.>>From Closure to Creation“I didn’t inherit a business—I shut it down.”Chris shares the emotional closure with his father, the sale of the family factory, and how he turned personal loss into a new professional beginning.>>Southeast Asia’s Family Business Wake-Up Call“We raised a generation of lawyers and bankers—but who’s left to run the businesses?”He explains how Singapore’s success came at a cost: the erosion of entrepreneurial drive—and why he’s now building the bridge back.>>Designing a VC That Feeds the Ecosystem“Our investors are second-gen family owners. Our startups solve their problems.”Chris outlines Thrive’s unique model: a purpose-built flywheel that connects capital, tech, and legacy businesses in Southeast Asia.>>Capital with a Conscience“We backed a ride-hailing company where drivers take home 40% more pay.”From AgriMax to Tata, Chris shares examples of startups Thrive has funded that combine profitability with real, human impact.>>Fatherhood, Values, and the Next Next Gen“I don’t teach my kids my methods—I teach them my values.”Chris opens up about parenting three children under 13, mentoring with intention, and why good values—not rigid playbooks—are what truly last._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Christopher Quek
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#298 Chris Quek: From Inheritance to Identity
Chris Quek could’ve stayed in the family business and lived comfortably. Instead, he chose a life of uncomfortable clarity. In this first of a two-part series, Chris shares how he rejected expectations, fled the legacy he was born into, and built an e-commerce business in Malaysia with nothing but grit and guidance from mentors. Now 46, he reflects on what identity really means when you’re not handed a playbook—and how each phase of reinvention brings you closer to your core. For Gen Xers rewriting their lives mid-game, this is the kind of conversation that sticks.>>When Legacy Isn’t Your Story“I didn’t want to be the son of Mr. Quek. I wanted to be me.”Chris explains why he left his family’s manufacturing empire and fled to Malaysia—where he started over, with no plan, no capital, and no title.>>Courage Is Quiet“I lasted three days in China. Then I left. I couldn’t do it.”He unpacks the emotional and ethical discomfort that made him walk away from his father’s factory—and the fear he had to face to forge his own path.>>Lessons from the Streets of Malaysia“My startup wasn’t sexy. It was survival.”Chris shares how he built a cross-border e-commerce business using payment hacks, logistics hustle, and gut instinct—long before VC buzzwords existed.>>Mentorship Over Money“I didn’t inherit wealth. I inherited wisdom.”Raised around entrepreneurs and sharp thinkers, Chris reflects on how informal mentoring—from car rides to restaurant napkins—shaped his business thinking.>>Every Decade, Rediscover Yourself“At every stage, I found a new part of me I didn’t know existed.”Chris traces his 20-year journey through reinvention—from entrepreneur to advisor to VC—and why he believes identity isn’t found. It’s built, season by season._____________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Christopher Quek
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