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On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Rob Arnott to discuss the Fundamental Index, the equity risk premium, and where Rob believes we’re at in the value cycle. Rob Arnott is the founder and chairman of the board of Research Affiliates. Rob plays an active role in the firm’s research, portfolio management, product innovation, business strategy, and client-facing activities. He is a member of the Executive Committee of the board. Rob is co-portfolio manager on the PIMCO All Asset and All Asset All Authority funds and the PIMCO RAE™ funds. Over his career, Rob has endeavored to bridge the worlds of academic theorists and financial markets, challenging conventional wisdom and searching for solutions that add value for investors. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:02 - What the Fundamental Index is and how it has performed over the past two decades 16:32 - How to calculate the equity risk premium 23:44 - Why short-term forecasts are impossible to project accurately, but long-term forecasts are not 27:50 - Where Rob believes we are in the value cycle 44:03 - Why companies that get removed from the index tend to outperform those that get added 49:21 - How companies get added to the S&P 500 And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Check out the Research Affiliates. Follow Rob on LinkedIn. Email Shawn at [email protected] to attend our free events in Omaha or visit this page. Follow Clay on Twitter. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Bluehost Fintool PrizePicks Vanta Onramp SimpleMining Fundrise TurboTax HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

Luke Gromen unpacks the dynamics of stablecoins and T-bills, Bitcoin’s role as a fiscal policy marker, and the implications of yield curve control. We delve into U.S. dollar devaluation, global liquidity in 2025, and the interplay of tariff threats and international Bitcoin reserves. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 01:10 - Why total federal receipts over 18% of GDP have historically led to recessions. 11:25 - The connection between stablecoins and T-bill demand, and its influence on Bitcoin adoption. 21:58 - How the Bank of England’s yield curve control impacts Bitcoin’s bullish potential. 23:42 - Luke’s argument for early U.S. dollar devaluation to manage debt-to-GDP ratios. 24:46 - Luke’s perspective on global liquidity trends for 2025. 26:11 - The role of Bitcoin as a marker of U.S. fiscal policy failures. 28:29 - How tariff negotiations could push nations to adopt Bitcoin reserves. 29:35 - Developments in China, Canada, and France, and their potential effects on global finance. 34:26 - Steps for transitioning to a Bitcoin standard in global credit systems. 50:42 - Luke’s strategic approach if advising the U.S. government on managing deficits. Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Luke’s X Account. Luke’s FFTT Newsletter. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Bluehost Fintool PrizePicks Vanta Onramp SimpleMining Fundrise TurboTax Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

We Study Billionaires podcast, hosted by Stig Brodersen, Preston Pysh, William Green, Clay Finck, and Kyle Grieve, is the flagship podcast of The Investor’s Podcast Network, with more than 180 Million downloads. On the show, they interview and study famous financial billionaires including Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, Howard Marks, and Bill Gates, and they teach you what they learn and how you can apply their investment strategies in the stock market. Leverage the lessons we learned from studying billionaires and apply them in your own investing journey. Listen to our weekly episodes below. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

In today's episode, Kyle Grieve is joined by co-host William Green, who explores topics like the art of cloning and the nuances required to do it effectively, whether or not contrarianism is a trait that can be learned, the inner workings of Charlie Munger’s incredible mind, and what we can learn from him, how to improve focus while reducing noise in a complex world, the power of simplicity, why quality is so impactful, where successful investors fall on the optimism spectrum, why close-knit communities are so helpful, and much more! IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:53 - The most important investing concepts to adopt to tilt the odds in your favour in an uncertain world. 10:56 - The keys to becoming an expert cloner to improve your investing and life. 24:46 - Why you should search out win-win relationships. 32:34 - The importance of managing emotions. 32:34 - The three emotions that you should be aware of so you can eliminate them as fast as possible to live a better life. 48:27 - The difficulties of being a contrarian and if contrarianism can be taught. 01:06:41 - Why simplicity is so vital to a winning investing strategy. 01:15:30 - The importance of living with quality in all aspects of life. 01:34:56 - How to navigate the spectrum of optimism and pessimism. 01:43:14 - William’s vital takeaways away from being a part of close-knit communities. And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Buy Richer, Wiser, Happier here. Buy Letting Go by David Hawkins here. Follow Kyle on Twitter and LinkedIn. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Bluehost Fintool PrizePicks Vanta Onramp SimpleMining Fundrise TurboTax HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm